Question 15
QUESTIONER: YOU SAY THAT IF SOMEONE DIES AT THE HANDS OF KRISHNA IT MEANS THAT HE HAS EARNED IT THROUGH MERITORIOUS KARMAS. TO HEAR YOU SAY IT GIVES RISE TO A BLISSFUL PAIN IN MY HEART. SO I VENTURE TO ASK IF ALL YOUR PLAY-ACTING IS WITHOUT CAUSE?
It is utterly without cause. Yes, it is absolutely causeless. And you are right, it is all play-acting.
And when I talk about meritorious acts and their consequences, it means this: in the manifest world nothing happens without a cause. If in this world of cause and effect you happen to come across a person like Krishna, it is never accidental. Nothing in this wide world is accidental. Not even accidents take place accidentally, so how can a death at the hands of Krishna be accidental?
Really, nothing is accidental here. If I hug someone and quarrel with another, if I love someone and hate another, if I am a friend to someone and an enemy to another, each one of these acts has stemmed from my infinite past existence; there is nothing accidental about them. I repeat, nothing is accidental in this manifest world. And that is why, when something happens without reason, it seems to be a miracle, something coming from the other world, the unmanifest world.
The being of Krishna is absolutely causeless, but Arjuna's relationship with Krishna is not. As far as Arjuna is concerned, his relationship with Krishna cannot be without cause, without a reason, a purpose. This is rather difficult to understand, so I will go into it at some length.
Our relationship with a person like Krishna is like one-way traffic. You can love him, but it cannot be said that he will also love you. All that can be said about him is that he is loving, that he is love itself; hence, when you go to him you will easily avail of his love. It may seem to you that he loves you, that he is related to you, but that is not a fact. He is simply loving; his love will shower on you when you are in his presence. It is as if you go out of your house on a cold morning and the light of the sun envelopes you, warms you and cheers you. From your side you can be in love with Krishna, but from his side Krishna is not going to be in a love relationship with you. It is always one-way traffic, although you can think that Krishna loves you. He is love and this love is available to everyone who seeks it.
If Krishna kills someone, he does it without cause. But you cannot say the same thing in regard to the person who has been killed by Krishna. His death, from his side, is not without cause. This man had been living a sequential life, a life connected with a long dead past; he was not living a spontaneous life. How can the life of a demon be spontaneous? And whoever is not spontaneous is no different from a demon. His life is inextricably bound up with his past; he lives through his dead past.
If such a person dies at the hands of Krishna it means that his death is a link, the latest link in the long chain of his past. His death flows from his past, although it is causeless for Krishna, from Krishna's side. Krishna would not have gone searching for this man in order to kill him; on the contrary, the man himself came to him to court death. This is altogether a different thing.
Similarly, whosoever goes to him, Krishna's love is spontaneously available. If he had not come, Krishna would not have gone searching for him. Even if no one goes to Krishna, and he is sitting alone in a forest, he will be loving, and the solitude of the forest, the emptiness around him, the entire void of the cosmos will be the recipient of his love. It will make no difference for him and his love if someone is near him or there is nothing or no one.
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Chapter 8
- Krishna, Krishna: The Man and His Philosophy Chapter 8: He Alone Wins who does not Want to Win, Question 1
Krishna, Krishna: The Man and His Philosophy Chapter 8: He Alone Wins who does not Want to Win, Question 1, KRISHNA'S LIFE, PARTICULARLY HIS CHILDHOOD, IS FULL OF STORIES OF HIS EXTRAORDINARY HEROISM. HE KILLED THE TYRANT KIND KANSA AND DESTROYED DEMONS LIKE KIRTI, AGHA, BAKA AND GHOTAKA; IN A DUEL HE DEFEATED POWERFUL WRESTLERS LIKE CHANOOR AND MUSTIKA. HE SUBDUED A VERY VENOMOUS SNAKE KNOWN AS KALIA, AND PUT OUT A WHOLE FOREST FIRE SINGLE-HANDED. DO YOU THINK THESE ARE TRUE STORIES OR MYTHICAL ONES? AND WHAT DO THEY SUGGEST AND SYMBOLIZE? IN THIS CONTEXT I WOULD LIKE TO RECALL YOUR WORDS, 'WHEN KRISHNA SAYS THAT HE IS HERE TO DESTROY THE WICKED, HE ACTUALLY MEANS TO CHANGE THEM, TO REFORM THEM.' BUT THESE STORIES CLEARLY SAY HE REALLY DESTROYED THEM at energyenhancement.org
- Krishna, Krishna: The Man and His Philosophy Chapter 8: He Alone Wins who does not Want to Win, Question 2
Krishna, Krishna: The Man and His Philosophy Chapter 8: He Alone Wins who does not Want to Win, Question 2, KRISHNA IS SAID TO HAVE SHOWN YASHODA, HIS FOSTER MOTHER, THE WHOLE OF THE UNIVERSE ENCLOSED IN HIS MOUTH. HE IS ALSO SAID TO HAVE GIFTED HIS DIVINE EYE TO ARJUNA TO ENABLE HIM TO SEE HIS UNIVERSAL FORM. IT IS ALSO SAID THAT KRISHNA TOOK BACK THE DIVINE EYE FROM ARJUNA AFTER HE HAD SEEN HIS UNIVERSAL FORM. PLEASE EXPLAIN THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THESE EPISODES at energyenhancement.org
- Krishna, Krishna: The Man and His Philosophy Chapter 8: He Alone Wins who does not Want to Win, Question 3
Krishna, Krishna: The Man and His Philosophy Chapter 8: He Alone Wins who does not Want to Win, Question 3, IS DIVINE VISION REALLY FRIGHTENING? HOW IS IT ARJUNA WAS SCARED BY IT? at energyenhancement.org
- Krishna, Krishna: The Man and His Philosophy Chapter 8: He Alone Wins who does not Want to Win, Question 4
Krishna, Krishna: The Man and His Philosophy Chapter 8: He Alone Wins who does not Want to Win, Question 4, THE LAST PART OF THE FIRST QUESTION REMAINS UNANSWERED BY YOU. ACCORDING TO YOU, WHEN KRISHNA SAYS HE IS HERE TO DESTROY THE WICKED, HE REALLY MEANS TO CHANGE THEM, TO TRANSFORM THEM. BUT THE MANY STORIES OF HIS LIFE CLEARLY SAY HE ACTUALLY DESTROYED THE WICKED at energyenhancement.org
- Krishna, Krishna: The Man and His Philosophy Chapter 8: He Alone Wins who does not Want to Win, Question 5
Krishna, Krishna: The Man and His Philosophy Chapter 8: He Alone Wins who does not Want to Win, Question 5, DO YOU THINK THAT THE PAST CONDITIONING OF THE SUBTLE BODY AND ITS MIND CHANGES WITH THE CHANGE OF THE GROSS BODY? at energyenhancement.org
- Krishna, Krishna: The Man and His Philosophy Chapter 8: He Alone Wins who does not Want to Win, Question 6
Krishna, Krishna: The Man and His Philosophy Chapter 8: He Alone Wins who does not Want to Win, Question 6, ONE OF MARSHAL MC LUHAN'S MAXIMS SAYS: THE MEDIUM IS THE MESSAGE. SOME CRITIC SUBSTITUTED 'THE MASSAGE' FOR 'THE MESSAGE' AND THUS GAVE AN ALTOGETHER NEW MEANING TO THE MAXIM. IN THE SAME WAY CAN WE CALL KRISHNA'S FLUTE A BEING'S LOVING CALL TO GOD? THEN I WANT TO KNOW WHAT IS THE MEANING OF KRISHNA BLOWING HIS CONCH, PANCHJANYA, ON THE BATTLEFIELD OF KURUKSHETRA. AND IS IT SOMETHING SYMBOLIC THAT HE CARRIES HIS FLUTE AND A WEAPON LIKE THE SUDAR SHANCHAKRA TOGETHER? THERE IS A SHLOKA, A STANZA IN THE BHAGWAD'S CHAPTER ON MAHARAAS, WHICH DESCRIBES KRISHNA'S PLAY WITH THE GOPIS IN THESE WORDS: YATHA ABHRAKA SWAPRATIBIMBA VIBHRAMAH -- AS IF THE CHILD IS PLAYING WITH HIS OWN SHADOW. WHAT IS THE UNDERLYING MEANING OF THIS METAPHOR? AND A MYSTIC HAS SAID THAT 'LIVING BEING'S EGO IS GOD'S FOOD ' IS THIS THE REASON THAT KRISHNA SUDDENLY DISAPPEARS, FROM THE MIDST OF THE DANCING GOPIS IN MAHARAAS? at energyenhancement.org
- Krishna, Krishna: The Man and His Philosophy Chapter 8: He Alone Wins who does not Want to Win, Question 7
Krishna, Krishna: The Man and His Philosophy Chapter 8: He Alone Wins who does not Want to Win, Question 7, YOU OFTEN SAY THAT PRAYER IS A STATE OF CONSCIOUSNESS. AND YOU ALSO SAY THAT PRAYER IS A STATE OF GRATEFULNESS. THEN HOW IS IT THAT PRAYER IS NOT NON-DUALISTIC? at energyenhancement.org
- Krishna, Krishna: The Man and His Philosophy Chapter 8: He Alone Wins who does not Want to Win, Question 8
Krishna, Krishna: The Man and His Philosophy Chapter 8: He Alone Wins who does not Want to Win, Question 8, A PART OF THE QUESTION STILL REMAINS UNANSWERED. IT IS ABOUT KRISHNA'S CONCH, PANCHJANYA, AND HIS WEAPON, CHAKRASUDARSHAN. AND WHAT ABOUT THE BHAGWAD'S DESCRIPTION OF MAHARAAS -- THE GREAT DANCE -- AS A CHILD'S PLAY WITH HIS SHADOWS? at energyenhancement.org
- Krishna, Krishna: The Man and His Philosophy Chapter 8: He Alone Wins who does not Want to Win, Question 9
Krishna, Krishna: The Man and His Philosophy Chapter 8: He Alone Wins who does not Want to Win, Question 9, IT IS SAID THAT VALMIKI WROTE THE BIOGRAPHY OF RAMA MUCH BEFORE HE HAPPENED, AND RAMA IS ALSO KNOWN AS AN INCARNATION OF THE DIVINE. SO HOW IS IT THAT THERE IS A SEQUENCE, A CHAIN-LIKE CONTINUITY IN HIS LIFE? at energyenhancement.org
- Krishna, Krishna: The Man and His Philosophy Chapter 8: He Alone Wins who does not Want to Win, Question 10
Krishna, Krishna: The Man and His Philosophy Chapter 8: He Alone Wins who does not Want to Win, Question 10, DO YOU INTERPRET KRISHNA IN THE TERMS OF MARTIN BUBER? at energyenhancement.org
- Krishna, Krishna: The Man and His Philosophy Chapter 8: He Alone Wins who does not Want to Win, Question 11
Krishna, Krishna: The Man and His Philosophy Chapter 8: He Alone Wins who does not Want to Win, Question 11, WHAT DOES IT MEAN WHEN SOMEONE SAYS,
- Krishna, Krishna: The Man and His Philosophy Chapter 8: He Alone Wins who does not Want to Win, Question 12
Krishna, Krishna: The Man and His Philosophy Chapter 8: He Alone Wins who does not Want to Win, Question 12, WHAT IS THE PLACE OF MEMORY IN WHAT YOU CALL A SEQUENTIAL LIFE AND IN A LIFE OF SPONTANEITY? at energyenhancement.org
- Krishna, Krishna: The Man and His Philosophy Chapter 8: He Alone Wins who does not Want to Win, Question 13
Krishna, Krishna: The Man and His Philosophy Chapter 8: He Alone Wins who does not Want to Win, Question 13, DO NOT OLD MEMORIES CREATE A PROBLEM FOR KRISHNA WHEN HE IS EXPLAINING THE GEETA TO ARJUNA? at energyenhancement.org
- Krishna, Krishna: The Man and His Philosophy Chapter 8: He Alone Wins who does not Want to Win, Question 14
Krishna, Krishna: The Man and His Philosophy Chapter 8: He Alone Wins who does not Want to Win, Question 14, DOES NOT KRISHNA, IN HIS RELATIONSHIP WITH ARJUNA, MAKE USE OF HIS PAST MEMORIES? IS HE ALWAYS YOUNG AND SPONTANEOUS? at energyenhancement.org
- Krishna, Krishna: The Man and His Philosophy Chapter 8: He Alone Wins who does not Want to Win, Question 15
Krishna, Krishna: The Man and His Philosophy Chapter 8: He Alone Wins who does not Want to Win, Question 15, YOU SAY THAT IF SOMEONE DIES AT THE HANDS OF KRISHNA IT MEANS THAT HE HAS EARNED IT THROUGH MERITORIOUS KARMAS. TO HEAR YOU SAY IT GIVES RISE TO A BLISSFUL PAIN IN MY HEART. SO I VENTURE TO ASK IF ALL YOUR PLAY-ACTING IS WITHOUT CAUSE? at energyenhancement.org
- Krishna, Krishna: The Man and His Philosophy Chapter 8: He Alone Wins who does not Want to Win, Question 16
Krishna, Krishna: The Man and His Philosophy Chapter 8: He Alone Wins who does not Want to Win, Question 16, WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN SAYING ABOUT KRISHNA AND HIS MYRIAD VIRTUES HAS SWEPT US OFF OUR FEET, AND WE SEEM TO HAVE TURNED INTO HIS DEVOTEES. IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THERE ARE NO INADEQUACIES IN HIS LIFE? IS IT NECESSARY THAT WE JUSTIFY HIS EVERY ACTION WHETHER IT IS DANCING WITH THE GOPIS OR HIS STEALING THEIR CLOTHES OR GOADING PIOUS YUDHISTHRA TO LIE ABOUT THE DEATH OF ASHWASTHAMA? AND CAN WE CALL IT A SCIENTIFIC APPROACH? at energyenhancement.org
- Krishna, Krishna: The Man and His Philosophy Chapter 8: He Alone Wins who does not Want to Win, Question 17
Krishna, Krishna: The Man and His Philosophy Chapter 8: He Alone Wins who does not Want to Win, Question 17, IS IT POSSIBLE THAT SOMETIMES MIND AND HEART, THOUGHT AND FEELING, MEET AND MINGLE WITH EACH OTHER? PERHAPS THEY DO, AND IT IS GREAT at energyenhancement.org
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